I don’t have a right to earn money from my music.

I believe that music is artistically valuable, culturally necessary, beautiful, joyous, human and magical. I believe that the music I make brings happiness and light to the people around me, the people who engage with it online, and of course to me.

I also believe that when people are grateful for music they will thank the musician. That might be a pat on the back after a gig, a quid in a hat, or a slice of cake. It might be a fan club subscription, a £200 gig ticket, or a yacht. But when people aren’t grateful for music there is no reason why they would thank the musician.

I don’t believe that I have a right to earn money from my music. When people are grateful for my music they offer me stuff.

Rather than leave argumentative comments all over the internet, I’m going to offer you links to some different viewpoints on the matter. All are well-argued and interesting. I don’t agree with all of them, but I think it’s important to try to see this issue from a few different perspectives.

  • “To eliminate or to throttle file sharing is an assault on your rights as an artists.”, Just Say NO To Putting An End To Illegal Music Sharing. by Bruce Warila
  • “In this day and age, of course, it’s particularly hard to persuade anyone to buy music, when they can just get it for free, anonymously, on the internet.”: Releasing a new album! Tell me your thoughts! by Nick Gill
  • “This is like what happened when we moved from sheet music to recorded music. Only more so.”, Thing 20: Forget product – sell relationship by Andrew Dubber
  • “Having an audience of 500,000 that aren’t currently making you any money would be an INCREDIBLELY WONDERFUL problem to have to solve.”, Promotion Is A Numbers Game (Get Heard!) by Steve Lawson
  • “If it still sounds petulant to some people for me to say that I “expect” some reward when other people enjoy the fruits of my art, time and money, I can only respond that it sounds petulant to me when people say they expect it for free.”, Short Replies by Frank Turner

If I work out the answer I’ll let you know. ;)

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17 Comments, Comment or Ping

  1. Jon

    Like it or not, you do have the right to earn money from your music. If you choose to forego that right, that is your own decision.

  2. Ben, It’s a problem that applies to any creation of content, really. Although I don’t live off my photography, this is how I have been doing stuff until now (and will continue to do until something changes):

    • I offer all my published photography for free, for non-commercial uses (Creative Commons), in exchange of attribution.
    • I make money from my photography in two ways: getting hired for specific commercial or artistic photo jobs; and selling signed prints (open editions only, no unique prints or closed editions).
  3. This is an interesting position with engrossing points of view in the links. I really loved Steve Lawson’s point of view. Thanks for sharing.

  4. I’ve given this a lot of thought, and have even felt puzzled about it at times.

    For me, the challenge is that I’m in no direct contact with the people who (might) enjoy the songs I write. So, getting some kind of indirect pat on the back when others perform my works would be a marvelous thing.

    Here’s one take on the topic: http://tommi.raivio.net/blog/2009/06/solving-the-copyright-puzzle/ …still a work-in-progress. :)

  5. Well said – nice and short. I’m all for dishing it out for free, knowing that it comes back to you in ways you mentioned (cake, et al).

    When talking with people about music sales vs free, it’s amazing how easily people can believe it’s OK to spend quite a bit of money on a music video which is played for free. Or to release singles on the radio / internet for free. But if you tilt the business model – say, albums for free but charge for performances – people can’t quite wrap their heads around it. Interesting. To me, anyway.

  6. Thanks for the comments, guys. I’m really interested to unwrap the problem and try to see it from as objective a point of view as possible. And that’s not easy.

    Jon: You say I have the right to earn money from my music and I say I don’t. That seems like an insurmountable disagreement, but I suspect that each of us is using the word ‘right’ in a way that makes it useful to our own point of view, and that we actually disagree more on details than on general principles. I’m going to try to work out what those details are and get back to you.

    Pedro: You’re right, this does apply to any creative life. My situation is very similar to yours: I give my music away for free, and because of that I get paid to play gigs, write songs, teach, etc. And like you, I don’t make my living from that (which obviously affects my attitude a lot).

    Brennig: You’re welcome. I’m enjoying your stuff on http://oxfordbloggers.com btw.

    Tommi: How come you’re not in contact with the people who might like your music? The way I see it, you have to be in contact with your audience whether it’s through old school marketing or the new school social media conversation. I can’t remember who, but somebody recently compared the profession of ‘songwriter’ to that of ‘tinker’ – still valid, but no longer relevant. As a lover of the Brill Building era songwriters that’s a depressing thought, but things change and we have to change with them.

    Ralph: Good point about music videos. I don’t think musicians were given a chance to consider the validity of using freely broadcasted videos as promotion back in the day. Record companies did the marketing and bands had little or no input (and why would they?). Now the business process is transparent and everyone’s freaking out. ;)

  7. Jon

    The way I was using the word ‘right’ was… legally.

    You legally have the right to earn money from the music you create.

    People should legally have the right to earn money from anything they make.

    Unless they’re making trouble.

  8. You don’t have a right to make money from your music – but you do have an opportunity to. The more interesting it is, the stronger the opportunity.

    Nobody has the right to earn just because they made something. If I carve a nude sculpture in my back garden, write a novel about leprechauns or bake delicious whisky muffins, then I have a chance of making money from it (more so than had I not put the effort in) but only a fool would claim that the money was rightfully mine simply because I’d put the time into a creative endeavour.

    The entitlement mindset baffles me.

    I have no doubt that you will make money, but you should celebrate the fact that there is no entitlement at work here, because you have something much better. You have risk.

    When you have risk, you have the opportunity for great reward. You may also end up with nothing. Any musician’s career is likely to be largely speculative.

    Give yourself the best chance of success, and you should (but may not) do well. Rely on the “right” to be paid, and frankly – you’re screwed.

    That said – of course, if earning IS happening from your music, under most circumstances, you do have legal rights and should be among those doing the earning.

  9. A very interesting a thought provoking piece – I’m not entirely sure where I stand on this subject either. I think that don’t have the right is a little strong, but it gets your overall message across rather nicely. I think that you probably have a right to make money, but not to become rich from it; people who become rich from music mostly are not in it for the music as far as I can tell (apart from some honestly great musicians who still do it for the music, and only incidentally happen to get paid handsomely).

    Oh – nice shameless plug of http://oxfordbloggers.com, by the way ;)

  10. But you do have the right – legally, morally, ethically – to earn money from your music. It’s what you do with that right that matters here. You created it. It belongs to you. It is yours to share, sell or give away as you desire. The manifestation is in the desire. If you desire to make nothing from it, that’s what you’ll get. If you desire to only make money from your performance of it, that’s what you’ll get. If you desire to perform for free and make money from sales of songs/CDs/t-shirts/underwear, that’s what you’ll get. If people throw money at you and you decide to take that money and give it all to some homeless person on the corner, that’s up to you, too. It all comes down to YOU and what it is about your creation – your music – that you choose to place value on.

  11. More interesting and useful comments. We’re getting there.

    The use of the word ‘right’ is still confusing the issue. The ‘right’ that Leisl and Jon talk about is (as Jon says) a legal right, but not a right to earning. It’s a property right. You own your creations (with all the usual caveats…), and you can exercise copyright over them. That means, in theory at least, that you can control their use by licensing them however you please and charging money if you like.

    In practise, slapping a copyright symbol on a copy of a creation doesn’t allow you to control every single use of it. That’s always been the case, and has been discussed elsewhere.

    Dubber says, “You don’t have a right to make money from your music – but you do have an opportunity to.” I agree, and I think that if we talk about ownership of our creations and the opportunity to exploit them for money, we’re all (roughly) on the same page.

    Jon said, “People should legally have the right to earn money from anything they make.” Can we rephrase that? Maybe “people should legally have the opportunity to earn money from anything they make” (including trouble ;)?

    We have the right to own stuff (a house, a shop, a song, a film). We have the tools and the opportunity to create value using the stuff we own. And now we have the tools and the opportunity to converse with interesting and intelligent people all over the place, so the glorious tale of the value we create can be told far and wide. And we can have cake.

  12. Jon

    I will not be rephrased, Benjamin!

    People DO legally have the opportunity to earn money from anything they make! They ALSO have the RIGHT to!

    Your initial statement ‘I don’t have a right to earn money from my music’ is just blithering stupidosity. Situations under which your statement could be true:

    1. If you hadn’t written you music.
    2. If you hadn’t written your music and were using a keyboard made of babies to play it.

    You, unarguably, have both the legal and moral right to earn money from anything you created. You just do. That is NOT debatable.

    So, YOU should rephrase YOUR original comment to “I shouldn’t have a right to earn money from my music”

    Change that and then we can talk like grown-ups.

  13. You, unarguably, have both the legal and moral right to earn money from anything you created.

    Having just written a lengthy response full of interesting quotes about the definitions of various rights, I’m going to delete that and start again by trying to state my position as simply and clearly as possible. It’s not easy, and I don’t expect to get it exactly right first time. The reason I wrote this post was to give myself an opportunity to explore what I and others think about this issue. It has worked. I’m exploring.

    Here are some thoughts:

    Filesharing has undermined the ‘sell plastic discs for profit’ model, much like recorded music undermined the ‘sell sheet music for profit’ model.

    I am inclined to agree with Dubber that copyright is no longer fit for purpose and that a new system of copyright could be written which would once again incentivize creativity. As it stands, copyright in music is only usefully protecting the assets of record companies. It used to protect the right of songwriters to control the copies of their work, but it doesn’t any more.

    I own my songs. If people like them, I can earn money from them. Sometimes I’m paid to write a song for somebody. Sometimes I’m paid for downloads of my songs. Mostly I license them under a Creative Commons license. I don’t give up the copyright, but I let people use them and share them in a controlled way. This is how I distribute my songs. It’s not my business model.

    I earn money because of my music. I’m down in Devon this week because River Cottage paid me £300 to play at their Autumn Fair (plus free organic burgers and cider all weekend for three of us). They only know about my music because it’s out there. The Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall song is on YouTube. You can download the audio for free. I gave a card to everyone who talked to me after my sets, and told them that they could get the Hugh song on my website. They were all thrilled. They wanted to send it to their friends. A handful of them asked about booking me to play elsewhere. I’m earning money as a musician without having to flog copies of albums or play shitty unpaid gigs. I get a few emails a week offering me money to write a song, play a gig, talk to people or teach. Mostly I turn them down because I have a day job. I have time for a few, so I choose the fun ones.

    I don’t earn a living from my music; neither do I think I’m entitled to. I suspect that if I wanted to, I could just about do it. It would be difficult, and almost none of the money would come from selling music. Most would come from playing at relevant and interesting events, helping other musicians with websites and social media stuff, playing sessions and licensing the odd track to TV. I imagine that would all be enough of a ballache to stop me wanting to write anything at all. ;)

    There’s freshly cut organic bacon on the table. More anon.

  14. Jon

    That last post is very well written and agreeable!

  15. I agree w/Jon – that last post is very well written and agreeable. I think you hit it on the nail with the word “entitled” in your last paragraph. Funny how it all comes down to semantics.

  16. Jon, Leisl,

    I was falling into the trap of becoming emotionally involved with the argument (it’s very hard not to take this stuff personally when you’re talking about your own creations), so I decided to go back to the facts. My facts, not those I assume about anybody else. I’m glad it made some sense.

    I’m going to sleep on this one, and try to write a follow-up post in the next couple of days. It would be massively useful for me (and hopefully for a few others) to be able to express these points succinctly and clearly. I’m starting to think that a statement of facts will work better than an opinion piece or a manifesto or a rant.

    Thanks for your input (everyone).

  17. Rob

    Hi Ben, Love the post. It has sparked an interesting debate.

    I think you make some very good points. The thing I have about rights is that it always comes down to one really.

    We have the right to choose, for better or worse. We have the right to want to make money from music, but again that comes down to a choice, not a right as has been pretty much mentioned already.

    The one thing we cannot choose is whether somebody else will pay us or not and that is their right to choose, so the way I see it is that us musicians should choose to continue to enjoy creating our music (or not) and that will be reflected in the finished article, which will allow people to choose if they like it and value it or not.

    Which you seem to be doing very well. Well done with the River Cottage gig – perfect example of your philosophy. Best of luck and best weather for that!